我公司一款产品拿出去做CE认证
产品适用的标准是EN60335.1
产品是固定在墙上的,靠墙的那一面有个开孔,用试验指可以碰到带电部件,但安装的墙上使用的时候孔正好贴在墙上.认证机构说产品那个开孔不符合要求.
但安装在墙上就不存在这个问题啊
各位老大,这样的开孔到底行不行啊
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此认证机构的说法有误...
考虑产品的实际使用环境是安规测试的一个基本原则.
从你的说明来看,你的产品属于“固定式”器具.
在做实验指测试时,器具应“按实际安装就位”后进行.安装就位后,你的孔就被遮住了,因此,此开孔在“防电击”上是没有问题的.
下面引自IEC 60335-1-2006 clause 8.2
8.2 Class II appliances and class II constructions shall be constructed and enclosed so that there is adequate protection against accidental contact with basic insulation and metal parts separated from live parts by basic insulation only.
It shall only be possible to touch parts which are separated from live parts by double insulation or reinforced insulation.
Compliance is checked by inspection and by applying test probe B of IEC 61032 in accordance with the conditions specified in 8.1.1.
NOTE Built-in appliances and fixed appliances are tested after installation.
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考虑产品的实际使用环境是安规测试的一个基本原则.
从你的说明来看,你的产品属于“固定式”器具.
在做实验指测试时,器具应“按实际安装就位”后进行.安装就位后,你的孔就被遮住了,因此,此开孔在“防电击”上是没有问题的.
下面引自IEC 60335-1-2006 clause 8.2
8.2 Class II appliances and class II constructions shall be constructed and enclosed so that there is adequate protection against accidental contact with basic insulation and metal parts separated from live parts by basic insulation only.
It shall only be possible to touch parts which are separated from live parts by double insulation or reinforced insulation.
Compliance is checked by inspection and by applying test probe B of IEC 61032 in accordance with the conditions specified in 8.1.1.
NOTE Built-in appliances and fixed appliances are tested after installation.
希望能给你一些参考...
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@hy_barry
此认证机构的说法有误...考虑产品的实际使用环境是安规测试的一个基本原则.从你的说明来看,你的产品属于“固定式”器具.在做实验指测试时,器具应“按实际安装就位”后进行.安装就位后,你的孔就被遮住了,因此,此开孔在“防电击”上是没有问题的.下面引自IEC60335-1-2006clause8.28.2ClassIIappliancesandclassIIconstructionsshallbeconstructedandenclosedsothatthereisadequateprotectionagainstaccidentalcontactwithbasicinsulationandmetalpartsseparatedfromlivepartsbybasicinsulationonly.Itshallonlybepossibletotouchpartswhichareseparatedfromlivepartsbydoubleinsulationorreinforcedinsulation.ComplianceischeckedbyinspectionandbyapplyingtestprobeBofIEC61032inaccordancewiththeconditionsspecifiedin8.1.1.NOTEBuilt-inappliancesandfixedappliancesaretestedafterinstallation.希望能给你一些参考...
谢谢!
此问题我明白了,以后还请多多指教
此问题我明白了,以后还请多多指教
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@青萍之末
你的产品在不安装的时候能不能插电运转,如果能则认证公司没错
我的看法是:还是要考虑的,起码从实际出发,如果墙上的支柱是金属,那么如果Clearance and creepage distance不够,有可能会有电击危险.
再者,标准上是这么说的:
Test probe B of IEC 61032 is applied without aprreciable force, the appliance being in every possible position except that appliances nomally used on the floor and having a mass exceeding 40kg are not tilted.
可见只有一个方向可以例外.
再者,标准上是这么说的:
Test probe B of IEC 61032 is applied without aprreciable force, the appliance being in every possible position except that appliances nomally used on the floor and having a mass exceeding 40kg are not tilted.
可见只有一个方向可以例外.
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@青萍之末
你的产品在不安装的时候能不能插电运转,如果能则认证公司没错
墙的那一面本身就应该当金属来看的, 挂墙的金属支架也会按说明书被考虑, 但引用的文字前还有一段话叫NORMAL USE,
The requirement of 8.1 applies for all positions of the appliance when it is operated as in normal use,
我觉得认证公司判不合格的依据可能在8.1.5, 尽管安装后不能碰到带电部件, 但安装前至少要有基本绝缘, 孔不能大的让带关节的测试手指伸进去碰到带电部件
The requirement of 8.1 applies for all positions of the appliance when it is operated as in normal use,
我觉得认证公司判不合格的依据可能在8.1.5, 尽管安装后不能碰到带电部件, 但安装前至少要有基本绝缘, 孔不能大的让带关节的测试手指伸进去碰到带电部件
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@hy_barry
此认证机构的说法有误...考虑产品的实际使用环境是安规测试的一个基本原则.从你的说明来看,你的产品属于“固定式”器具.在做实验指测试时,器具应“按实际安装就位”后进行.安装就位后,你的孔就被遮住了,因此,此开孔在“防电击”上是没有问题的.下面引自IEC60335-1-2006clause8.28.2ClassIIappliancesandclassIIconstructionsshallbeconstructedandenclosedsothatthereisadequateprotectionagainstaccidentalcontactwithbasicinsulationandmetalpartsseparatedfromlivepartsbybasicinsulationonly.Itshallonlybepossibletotouchpartswhichareseparatedfromlivepartsbydoubleinsulationorreinforcedinsulation.ComplianceischeckedbyinspectionandbyapplyingtestprobeBofIEC61032inaccordancewiththeconditionsspecifiedin8.1.1.NOTEBuilt-inappliancesandfixedappliancesaretestedafterinstallation.希望能给你一些参考...
产品卖出去并不是你想象的那么简单,你能控制消费者在什么条件下安装吗?
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